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A comprehensive (technical) guide to posting an article on Newsvine

Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:45 PM EST
not-news, newsvine, help, article, meta
By Brian Ford
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You've decided to post an article to Newsvine, only to be confronted with a text editor and a lot of confusing buttons.


This is the Microsoft Word of Newsvine, the interface you'll need to use to publish the brilliant idea that is brewing in your head.

Fortunately, you don't need to understand exactly how everything works -- breathe a sigh of relief -- but I'm going to start at the top and explain everything anyway. Consider it a public service announcement covering things like: What's the difference between published and unpublished? What happens when I save an article? What's XHTML? What are all these options?

All those questions and more will be answered so that by the time you're finished reading this, you'll be ready to publish like a pro.

This is what you'll be facing, as you get started:

Daunting, no?

From the top:

Published | Unpublished | Save

Until you're satisfied that your article is finalized, leave the Unpublished box checked. Clicking the Save button will then create a backup of your article so that you can close your browser, shut down your computer -- whatever -- and come back to finish editing later. The article is saved, but is not published to the general Newsvine audience. Once you've proofread your article (you do plan on proofreading, right?) you can change the check box to Published and click the "Save" button once again. At this point, the article is published and can be read by the Newsvine community.

It's generally a good idea to save often -- even if you're not going to leave your computer -- because, as always, things happen, and content gets lost. It's an even better idea to copy and paste everything into your favorite text editor as a fail safe.

Preview

Clicking the Preview button will render your article as it will appear once it is published, but DOES NOT publish OR save your article. This is merely a way to view your article as though it were published, as you write it. Consider this a dress rehearsal prior to publishing an article.

Cancel

The Cancel button will work in one of two ways:

  1. If you have not saved your article, the article will be deleted.
  2. If you have saved your article, all edits since the last save will be deleted.

Delete This Post

The Delete This Post button does exactly that: Whether you've saved it or not, whether it's published or unpublished, the post will be deleted. If it's published, the post will no longer be available for others to read on Newsvine. You will have to confirm that you actually want to delete the post if you click the button.

This article was backed up at...

Even if you don't save your posts, Newsvine automatically backs up content, once a minute. I find it's best to pretend this feature doesn't exist. Glitches happen, and you don't want your content to be lost because you trusted an automatic backup. "What has two thumbs and lost 6 hours of "Fallout: New Vegas" progress because of a corrupted auto-save? This guy." Don't be like me.

Permalink Address

This is the link that people will visit to read your article, once it's published. This is also the link you'll use if you want to post a link to your article on another blog, or Facebook, or wherever.

Type your headline here...

Pretty self explanatory, but I will say this: Type something reasonable there. Don't type something inflammatory to juice your page views. Your headline should be supported by the content of your article.

You're in XHTML Mode. If you prefer, you can use Easy Mode instead.

OR

You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML mode instead.

Using Easy Mode is a little like editing in Microsoft Word: You type in your article, highlight whatever text you want to style, and choose from various options (bold, Italic, Strikethrough, etc.) in order to apply the style. This is referred to as What You See is What You Get (WYSIWYG) editing because the styles are applied dynamically, obviating the need to use the Preview button. (In truth, what you see may not be exactly what you'll get, so it's still a good idea to Preview content before publishing.)

XHTML Mode offers a bit more control over text styling and formatting, but that added control requires a basic understanding of HTML/XHTML. You will not see the styles applied to your text until you Preview your article or until the article is Published.

Type your article here...

There aren't many limits on what you can type, but it's a good idea to follow the rules of the Code of Honor if you want your article to stay published. Don't be a jerk. Try to contribute something substantive. Be creative.

Type of Article:

  1. News Event: Use this if you're reporting an event or relaying factual information.
  2. News Opinion: Use this if you're providing your opinion about an event.
  3. Other: This is pretty much a catch-all for anything that doesn't fall into the above two categories. Chatty and/or silly articles, etc.

UNDER THE "OPTIONAL" HEADING

Category:

These are your options:

Categories

Think about your article. Review the list and choose the category that BEST fits your content. Choosing a category simply because it may provide more exposure, even though it isn't represented by your content, is a violation of Newsvine's Code of Honor.

So, you've chosen a category. What does that mean? Well, most importantly, it means that if enough people read your content, it will be featured on the category page that you've chosen. Like a Newspaper, each category gets its own section which is independent of the front page. Something can be featured on a category page, but not on the front page. If you don't choose a category -- if you choose None of the Above -- you lose the ability to be featured on a category page. You may still be featured on the front page, though. And, of course, it's possible to be featured on both, if your article is popular enough.

A new category -- Not News -- has just been added to the list which has unique properties which warrant special mention. Read the announcement here.

Not News is for content that is about the Newsvine community. (This is often referred to as "meta" content.) Site suggestions, complaints, questions for the staff -- anything at all about Newsvine in any way -- these are all acceptable and no one should fault you for publishing meta articles. However, the Newsvine staff has decided that this content should not be featured on the front page.

So, if you choose to write about Newsvine -- as I have with this article -- you MUST categorize your article as Not News. There are no exceptions. Doing so means that your content will be visible on the Not News category page (as well as in any groups you select - more on that below) but it will not appear on the front page. As far as I'm aware, Not News is the only category which will keep content from appearing on the front page.

This is a good development. The front page of every major newspaper is reserved for the most important stories, and Garfield is never going to show up there. Newsvine feels the same way about meta content. I don't know how meta content feels about ferns, or lasagna.

The Category system isn't perfect. It is, in my opinion, a bit over-complicated. Even so, it's what we have to work with and so long as you follow the Not News rule (or comply with it if someone lets you know you haven't) and otherwise use common-sense when choosing a category, you'll be fine. Honest mistakes happen.

Accept Comments:

Check the box if you want other members of Newsvine to be able to post comments to your article, uncheck it if you don't. Why wouldn't you want that, though? Newsvine is a social-news site. Be social.

Tags:

Tags are sort of like an index. You've written an article, now think of five (or so) key words that an average person would type into a search engine to find your article. People can also use tags to search your content archive.

For example, my Newsvine URL is:

http://brianford.newsvine.com

If someone instead types the following URL...

http://brianford.newsvine.com/primer

...a list of every article I've ever written that I tagged with "primer" will be displayed, instead of my main column.

If someone knows that you've written an article about a particular subject, but can't find it, you want them to be able to guess a tag and find that article very easily. For this reason alone, proper tagging is important. Don't go crazy and include hundreds of tags. Just tag sensibly. Not only does it make it easier for people to find your content, it means that people won't find the wrong content when doing a site-wide search.

This same convention can be used to do a search of every article on Newsvine, and you can even do a refined search for multiple tags by tacking tag+tag onto the end of URLs.

Juicing your tags for increased readership is a violation of Newsvine's Code of Honor, so don't do it.

When entering tags, separate them with a comma and join multiple-word tags with a dash, like so: newsvine, meta, write-article

Fun fact: Categories are basically nothing more than glorified tags. For example the "politics" category leads to: http://www.newsvine.com/politics where "politics" is the tag. (It's possible that the Newsvine powers-that-be have imbued the category tags with special powers that regular tags do not share: Consider that the Not News category is the tag "not-news" which prevents content from reaching the front page. Magic! My guess is that there is some way to prevent people from spamming their content to multiple categories by manually adding the category tags. Perhaps only the first category tag counts as a category. I'm speculating, here.)

City:

Not the city you live in, but the city your article is related to, if any. Start typing and a list of cities will show up. If the city you're looking for is listed, you can select it. Those cities have their own pages, which are essentially location-based categories.

PUBLISH TO (OPTIONAL)

The first option in this category is All of Newsvine, which is checked, by default. If you leave it checked, your article will (once published) be eligible for category pages, the front page, groups and your column. If you uncheck it, the article will ONLY be published to your column. This feature was put in place to deal with many of the issues that the Not News category now addresses, so there may not be any situations in which you'll want to uncheck it. If you're an introvert, the option is there.

The appearance of other "PUBLISH TO" options is dependent on whether you've joined any groups. If you have, you can publish your content to as many appropriate groups as you like. (Don't spam your content into inappropriate groups. No one likes that.) If you haven't joined any groups, well, there won't be much to do here.

Groups are essentially custom categories created by members of Newsvine which are restricted to members. Join or create groups here.

Add Media If Desired

Upload Image

Two options:

  1. Include your own photo: Selecting "Choose File" will allow you to navigate to an image file on your hard drive, which you can then upload to Newsvine's servers. Large images will be scaled-down to the appropriate size.
  2. Choose a topic-related photo from Flickr: Selecting "Flickr Photos" opens up a dialog box which then does a search of Flickr photos based on the tags you've chosen to use for your article. You can then select a photo and it will be inserted into your article. All of the appropriate licensing information is inserted. (This option only searches Flickr photos which are designated for public distribution.)

In either case, the photo will be inserted in the upper right of your article, with text flowing around it, to the left. It is also possible to upload multiple photos, which will stack one below the other, in the order they're uploaded. The first photo that is uploaded will be used to create a thumbnail image on your column page.

If using a photo from your hard drive, it is vital that it be a photo that you own the rights to, or have permission to re-publish.

On a related note, it's possible to post inline images (images that appear in specific places within an article) using HTML -- as I have -- but you'll need to understand HTML (and be in XHTML Mode) to do it.

Create Poll

This is a way to create simple polls to include with your articles. (A question and then a few answers that people can choose from.) Sadly, a lot of people are too lazy to write actual articles, so they just publish a bunch of polls. This SHOULD be used as a way to add something extra to a good article, not as a content generating machine. If you feel compelled to post a bunch of silly polls in spite of my protestations, at least have the decency to choose the Not News category.

Please?

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  • Public Discussion (57)
rottlady

This is excellent Brian! I've already put a link on my column to this for future reference. This will be very helpful for everyone.

Thanks!

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:42 PM EST
Brian Ford

Thanks for the link. :)

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:45 PM EST
Weeble WobbleDeleted
redsfan

Thank you for the information Brian...the main thing I've been confused about is "groups". I don't typically publish articles or seeds to groups because I'm not sure about how that works and whether it's appropriate. I need to learn more about participating in groups, for sure.

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 9:30 AM EST
McSpocky

I made a seeding video that might help you with that...

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 9:42 AM EST
redsfan

Wow...a video? You continue to amaze and impress me McSpocky! :)

Thanks!

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 10:07 AM EST
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oldfogey

It is at times like this I wish TPTB would come up with an award beyond the RAV. Brian Ford deserves to be given some kind of award for just being here and now for this article. Thanks, Brian, you are a good guy.

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:37 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Great article. I've posted a few articles. This is a great reference for details of publishing.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:45 PM EST
mightyj

Brian- Thanks for this article, it is a good guide for publishing.

Ps- If you are planning on taking off again could you make a new admin for the journalism group or process a couple of join requests. I know life gets busy but 3 or 4 months is a long time for a join request.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 4:03 AM EST
Sgt. Pepper

Very informative article Brian. Everyone should also be sure to check out Corey Spring's Pimp My Newsvine for XHTML tips and examples.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 2:02 PM EST
Brian Ford

Yeah - I may add that as a suggestion up in the XHMTL mode section of the article.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 4:58 PM EST
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lauhal

Clipped!

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:07 PM EST
Viki Babbles Gonia

Nice. Clipped to my column for future reference.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM EST
jfxgillis

Brian:

I see you've adopted a real jenn-you-wine picture for your avatar. Is your hiatus over?

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM EST
Brian Ford

I'm considering my options and how I'd like to move forward.

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM EST
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Penn-2066334

Brian;

thanks for the information you provided. i was wondering if you could give me a little further guidance on adding photos to my articles. i can't seem to get a large enough view of them to be appreciated. also i am unable to place them where i want.

thanks again for all of the other information; it explained things in more detail and is an excellent guide for those of us who are beginning.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Sun Dec 5, 2010 12:31 AM EST
Brian Ford

So, if you insert an image using Newsvine's built-in feature, it auto-resizes the image to a minimum size. In other words, if your image is OVER a certain size, it will always be scaled down to that minimum size.

If you want bigger images (or to place them where you want them) you have to use XHTML mode. This way, you can upload your image onto a server (I used Flickr for this article) and then link to them using an IMG link in HTML.

Like this:

That's inserted wherever you want the image to show up in the article. The width="100%" part makes the images the exact size of the width of your Newsvine column.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:54 PM EST
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Brian Ford

Well, shoot. Can't figure out how to get code to render properly, so:

[img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5221465512_87a954854f_o.png" alt="" width="100%" /]

Instead of [ and ] use < and >

  • 2 votes
#9.5 - Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:04 PM EST
rottlady

Brian, that would only work for the folks that have the "Beta" tools.

Penn, you have three options on placement of your pictures since you don't have the beta tools, right,left, and block. Block is the one that makes the picture fill the page. You can find them after you have uploaded the picture, click on the edit button beside the picture.

  • 4 votes
#9.6 - Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:15 PM EST
Brian Ford

I thought the new article format (basically, the same thing in comments) was already rolled out?

  • 4 votes
#9.7 - Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:32 AM EST
rottlady

Users without the Beta tools still can't embed yet.

  • 3 votes
#9.8 - Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:53 AM EST
Brian Ford

Oh. I'll have to fix that in my article, then. That's kinda lame. :(

  • 4 votes
#9.9 - Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST
Penn-2066334

Brian & Rottlady;

I appreciate the advice that you both gave me a year ago, unfortunately my tracker never alerted me, otherwise my expression of appreciation would have been sooner.

Anyway, I have a new question.....

I have recently joined a new group and I have some articles that I have already published, which I would like to post to my new group. I tried going to my article and selecting the group and save, but it doesn't seem to appear at the group site. What am I doing wrong or has the ship sailed?

Again, thanks for the advice given last year, and I will bookmark this article and check back later to insure I don't miss your reply. You guys & gals are the best!

Thanks, Penn.

  • 3 votes
#9.10 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST
rottlady

Penn, when you clip something to a group it goes in according to date. So if you are a month late, you'll need to check in the archives to find it. I hope that helps. Also, there usually is a little lag time so if it's a current article, you should check back a little later.

  • 4 votes
#9.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:01 PM EST
Penn-2066334

rottlady

when you clip something to a group it goes in according to date. So if you are a month late, you'll need to check in the archives to find it.

Well, how about that. There it was right in front of me.

clueless.

Thanks!!! Thanks!!! Thanks!!!

Off now to find an article on how to tie my shoes!

  • 4 votes
#9.12 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:54 PM EST
rottlady

*grins*

  • 5 votes
#9.13 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:04 PM EST
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anonymous-1077600

Thanks for the great article, clipped it earlier!

  • 1 vote
Reply#10 - Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:40 PM EST
mstanley2265

Thanks, informative, wish I'd had it sooner,,,lol but I did find out what I needed to know. Inserting the picture doesn't always work, sometimes I've gotten just a red x, what's with that? Happened both with uploading and Flickr too on occasion, not always.

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:16 AM EST
Anibaba1976

Excellent, very informative, good show brain, you have written a very good article for the new users, as there are too many questions arises in new user's mind and your article help them allot in the manner.

I am also a new user and by seeing your article i have found much of the answers that i have to ask.

So thank you for writing an article that is best among all.

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:57 AM EST
Simplistic Reality

Great article Brian. Clipped as well. Have you heard anything that I haven't about any more progress on our beta pages or when everyone can get them? I haven't noticed anything new or updates in a verrrrry long time. :-/ Just curious. Might possibly be the longest beta test of something I've done. Lol.

  • 4 votes
Reply#13 - Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:23 PM EST
Brian Ford

I haven't heard a thing. I kind of wonder if something else is going to take its place.

  • 3 votes
#13.1 - Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM EST
Simplistic Reality

Thanks for replying back. Yeah who knows.

  • 2 votes
#13.2 - Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:02 AM EST
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Anibaba1976

Dear Brain, there was tool bar beneath the news vine page by which i could see my unread columns and replies of others but it is now disappeared from my newsvine page do you have any tip to restored that bar?

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:37 AM EST
Matti Viikate

You made this very well. Voted.

  • 3 votes
Reply#15 - Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:26 PM EST
jimmy-913833

Brian,

I am wondering how to track my article and/or see when someone responds. How to I get alerted? Are there alerts? Can it be linkined to my hotmail account? I love the debates but find it difficult to track what's going on. jimmytanico@msn.com

  • 2 votes
Reply#16 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 7:15 AM EDT
Ben Josephs

It automatically shows up in your comment tracker, which is the beauty of Newsvine. There are two different places to track comments. At the top of the page, underneath the Newsvine logo, you'll see 'Conversation Tracker'. The top one tracks your articles and seeds, the middle tracks articles and seeds you've commented on, and the bottom one tracks what your friends have been commenting on.

The other place is the wet-bar at the bottom of the screen. All you have to do is click 'new comments'. Stuff from your column is on the left, everything else is on the right.

You can also track articles and seeds without commenting them (which is how I was informed of your comment on this article), just click the 'start tracking' at the very bottom. Uh, I will 'cc' this to your email address.

You might want to check out the Newsvine Help group.

  • 5 votes
#16.1 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 9:13 AM EDT
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HydeWhyte

The first photo that is uploaded will be used to create a thumbnail image on your column page.

I have found that sometimes the first photo I place in an unpublished article is the one that shows in the thumbnail...other times it is the last photo I upload (if I am posting more than one pic of course). Also, sometimes I can upload pics 1, 2, & 3 but when published they show up in a 3, 2, 1 order (backward from the order I upload them). I do not know if this is just 'one of those things' or if there is something I can do to ensure the pics show up in the same order they are uploaded when writing the article.

  • 4 votes
Reply#17 - Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT
rottlady

It's a quirk of the uploader, you can move them or just load them in backward's order.

  • 5 votes
#17.1 - Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:33 PM EDT
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McSpocky

I just found your article here and have added a link to it to my page of Newsvine Information Resources...

http://illuminate.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/29/5950290-newsvine-information-for-newsviners

You've made a very good tutorial!

  • 5 votes
Reply#18 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 10:06 AM EDT
RaisedByWolves

Does this stuff work with Macs? I've only seeded two articles because I find it terribly confusing.

Thank you for another spot to start from, though.

  • 3 votes
Reply#19 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 11:27 AM EDT
McSpocky

I've never used a Mac in my life so I don't have an answer, maybe one of these other good people will have an answer for you...

  • 3 votes
#19.1 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 12:40 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

I've not used a PC since 1986! LOL - not even my law firm had them (maybe because we were Apple's patent attorneys, but we were Intel's Sun's an Cisco's patent attorneys, too. - but no PC's.

I used to operate supercomputers, like CRAY, but that JCL doesn't help much with this stuff.

  • 3 votes
#19.2 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT
McSpocky

Yes, that's quite a bit different. lol

  • 3 votes
#19.3 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 12:50 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

It sure is! LOL. I worked on the Apollo project and some of the initial AWACs stuff. No one but a few nerds had anything like a computer at home in the late 70s. Then I got a Commodore 64; then an Amiga and then my Macs - 10th and 11th in the house right now, and not because they died, but because everything kept getting smaller and faster and much more memory. We got guys to the moon with 64k! LOL

  • 3 votes
#19.4 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 12:55 PM EDT
McSpocky

Computers really have come a long way, haven't they. That is awesome to have worked on the Apollo project, and it was amazing how so much was accomplished with the technology of the day. I would imagine that some of today's watches have more processing power than the computers back then lol

  • 4 votes
#19.5 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 7:41 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

Exactly, McS! When we had to make a change ASAP, we had to rewire boards to do it! LOL I can just imagine sitting up there waiting for computer operators to rewire boards and hoping it was the right way round!

  • 3 votes
#19.6 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 8:25 AM EST
McSpocky

Seems like it would be a madhouse. I can envision people frantically trying to rewire their boards before something went wrong.

  • 3 votes
#19.7 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 9:16 AM EST
RaisedByWolves

Can't really respond to that one! I don't think they ever lift one's ability to talk about insane days in a classified jungle!

  • 3 votes
#19.8 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 10:50 AM EST
McSpocky

Probably not. lol

  • 3 votes
#19.9 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 11:09 AM EST
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NC Slim

Raised by Wolves

#19

I use a MAC. Things were wonky when NV first changed. I save jpegs,png to IPhoto library original. then open library and click on photo or graphic and save it to seeded post. Still having a bit of trouble with uploading videos, but this too(problems) will pass.

  • 3 votes
Reply#20 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 2:29 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

Thank you, NC Slim. I'll keep this in my notes.

  • 3 votes
#20.1 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 3:06 PM EDT
McSpocky

Thanks for the info, NC Slim. I thought there should be someone around who would be able to answer a Mac question. :)

  • 4 votes
#20.2 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 7:43 PM EDT
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jay vee-4211468

#19

Raised by Wolves:

NC Slim is right about IPhoto Library. You can drag and drop a jpeg also.

  • 3 votes
Reply#21 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 9:21 AM EST
Leon Elledge

Great instructions ! I will study them and, I hope, publish soon.

Thanks for the piece !

  • 3 votes
Reply#22 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 11:45 AM EST
Pamela Drew

Brian Ford Redux again with 2010!! It' a fab article and as helpful now as then but why it is on current tracker as 2 hours old makes me worry what's being tracked and what's misdirected from actual current discussion, ya know?

  • 4 votes
Reply#23 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:13 PM EST
rottlady

I think it's because I commented on it this afternoon.

  • 3 votes
#23.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:06 PM EST
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Wolf Wolfman

Thank you for this article Brian.

I have added two private discussions to this article.

They appear at the top of the comment section.

There are about 842 members of Rightwingers. They can comment in the Rightwinger private discussion.

There are about 50 select members of Dumbasses secret group. They can comment in the Dumbass private discussion.

If there are any questions, please contact me via email, which is is done by clicking the "contact this author" link, on my column.

  • 1 vote
Reply#24 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:37 AM EST
Shub Tnediserp Remrof

Not sure why this fell into my tracker must be fate. Working on something related maybe that's why.

  • 1 vote
Reply#25 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:36 PM EST
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