Hiatus.

Thanks for putting this up here so I can link back to it whenever a new user asks, "So what does 'No Value' mean anyway?'"

W ,

Actually navel-gazing can be very valuable at times .
Obviously you did not do any of that in your time off
and it shows .

Actually navel-gazing can be very valuable at times

Perhaps, when done in private, not as a pious exhibition.

"So what does 'No Value' mean anyway?'"

What's of no value is this article, so it will be handy in that regard for me, too.

Actually navel-gazing can be very valuable at times

Perhaps, when done in private, not as a pious exhibition.

I am inclined to agree with that statement , however I reread the article
and saw no evidence of a pious exhibition .

saw no evidence of a pious exhibition .

Potato, potahto. What makes the world go 'round, eh?

Other than angular momentum , what ?

Literal much? No, I meant that different people see things differently.

I was hoping for something more profound than that .
After all , you've had a month to think things over .

Yes, I've had month to contemplate the abject inconsistency of the moderation. It's hard to take your medicine when the NV sacred cows get away with so much. I get suspended for expressing an honest belief but the person who calls me a @!$%#wit (on the same thread) gets nothing. I, apparently, can be called every name in the book including traitor and it can be said that I have a venereal disease and nary a peep out of management. By Tyler's examples, it can be reasonably inferred that it is open season on me. Oh, well, that's just the way it is and I will try and deal with it as best I can.

There are groups of viners who are expert at dancing on that thin line
between CoH violation and non-violation . Although I have not read the
thread where the mess happened to you , I heard about it .
It seems you walked into a hornet's nest w/o realizing it .
The key , IMO , is to not lose your cool in a situation like that .

who are expert at dancing on that thin line
between CoH violation and non-violation

There was no dancing in the examples mentioned, it was blatant and unambiguous, but I do know what you mean.

Although I have not read the
thread where the mess happened to you , I heard about it .

And now no one can, it's been deleted at the request of the now former member

The key , IMO , is to not lose your cool in a situation like that .

You're probably right about that. It's difficult sometimes, when passions are aflame, as they say.

it was blatant and unambiguous

Actually the word "@!$%#wit" , although it sounds highly
insulting , has ambiguous meaning .
How would you even define it's meaning ?

It's difficult sometimes, when passions are aflame

Yes , it can be difficult . That is why it is good to have
real friends to give you perspective .

It sounds insulting because it is (kinda like "dickweed" or "@!$%#wad", no actual meaning but an insult nonetheless); and the context in which it was used left no doubt. Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect a suspension for it's user but a reprimand or warning would have been nice.

Insulting , yes ; But if it has no definable meaning
then there is no clear CoH violation .
Now do you get my description about "dancing on
the thin line" ?

Insulting , yes ; But if it has no definable meaning
then there is no clear CoH violation .

That isn't true. It is violation of number 1 of the CoH:

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks...

I've seen Krishna get suspended for no discernible violation at all; in the opinion of Tyler he violated the "spirit" of the CoH by making a provocative (but CoH compliant) comment on an old thread. Nothing of the sort would have ever happened to an RAV (read: sacred cow) awardee such as DPM. He and others always seem to get the benefit of the doubt. I've also seen Bill Harrison get suspended on a very minor violation (he hasn't been back since, btw)

Yes , the RAV effect is certainly part of it .
But so is the skill at thin line dancing .
And it is unfortunate that Krishna got
a suspension . However there were other
suspensions in that thread .
It is possible that the real reason for K's
suspension was political to "balance out"
the other suspensions .

It is possible that the real reason for K's
suspension was political to "balance out"
the other suspensions .

And that's his opinion as well and for the record he wasn't upset about it at all. But it isn't right and it shouldn't be necessary to subvert CoH enforcement to "political considerations".

it shouldn't be necessary to subvert CoH enforcement to "political considerations".

I agree . But the political realities are , that group wields a lot of power ;
So , I'm not surprised that it happened .

that group wields a lot of power ;

Which group would that be? The lib/Jew-haters? (just kidding!)

If you were to send me a question as a comment on my home page
I could erase it after I read it and noone else would ever get to see it .