
The email in question.

The swing in activity staring "12 hours ago" is concurrent with the announcement.

On June 19, 2008, thousands of Netflix subscribers received the following notice via email:
We wanted to let you know we will be eliminating Profiles, the feature that allowed you to set up separate DVD Queues under one account, effective September 1, 2008.
Each additional Profile Queue will be unavailable after September 1, 2008. Before then, we recommend you consolidate any of your Profile Queues to your main account Queue or print them out.
While it may be disappointing to see Profiles go away, this change will help us continue to improve the Netflix website for all our customers.
In essence, the Profile feature allows a family with one account to operate multiple individual queues. So, for example, it's possible for me to set up a queue, while my wife operates an independent queue of her own. We currently pay for a plan which includes two rentals at a time, and the Profile system won't choose a movie off of my queue unless the returned movie came from my queue.
My wife and I also happen to have different taste in movies. Thus, the benefit of separated profiles lies in each of us getting movie recommendations based on our distinct interests. Unfortunately, once we merge our queues, Netflix is going to recommend that I give Bollywood a try and dear God I do not want to give Bollywood a try. We're also going to fight about who is dominating the queue, and which of us is getting more movies geared towards our particular interests.
There's also a practical matter: We rent a lot of Season DVDs of various TV shows that we'd like to catch up on, or which, for whatever reason, we didn't get around to watching while they were airing. Adding an entire season of any given program adds, on average, 5 or 6 DVDs to a queue. The benefit of Profiles is that one of us can add the series while the other will still get movies, thus balancing out our consumption. Merging our queues will mean manually staggering movies between series DVDs, so that we don't have a few weeks in a row of nothing but one TV program, over and over.
As usual, the internet has spoken out: Twitter posts about Netflix went up drastically, shortly after the email was sent out to customers. Twitscoop, a website which analyzes popular topics on twitter via a graph of activity surrounding a given keyword, provides a great visual representation of the popularity of this decision. (A screenshot has been provided. in the sidebar.)

Many of the initial reactions have been negative:
- jmissig : I wonder if it's coincidence that I received my AppleTV the day Netflix announced the removal of Profiles.
- billstreeter : I can't believe Netflix is canceling their profiles feature. Why are they going backwards?
- jeremya : Netflix is eliminating their Profiles feature... I will either be downgrading or canceling my account.... http://tinyurl.com/53cell
And on and on.
Doing away with a popular feature is one thing, but claiming that the reason is because "the change will help us continue to improve the Netflix website for all of our Customers" is downright absurd.
How? What does my ability to utilize separate profiles -- a feature that is invisible to anyone who doesn't share my account -- have to do with any other Netflix subscriber? How will taking that feature away benefit others enough (or even at all) and thereby justify the annoyance of thousands of other customers?
It's possible that Netflix has some feature in mind to compensate for the loss of Profiles, but the wording of their email notification is baffling, at best. At worst, the suspicion is going to be that they're somehow losing money and are thus taking their ball and going home. They're going to lose a lot of customers over this, unless there's an immediate attempt at damage control.
The Apple TV is suddenly seeming like a compelling option, not as an addition to my Netflix subscription, but as a complete replacement. I'm intrigued by the HD downloads, even at the relatively low resolution that the HD content is served up at, and despite the current lack of content. In short: The potential is there.
If Apple would get on the ball, and allow me to pay a $15-$20 monthly subscription and queue up the movies I want to watch so that I can have two out at a time, and so that a new movie begins to download as soon as my window expires on a currently downloaded movie, I'd switch without hesitation. This system would even alleviate some of the concerns with download speeds, as you'd always have something downloading in the background, as you watch the content that has already been downloaded.
As it stands, Netflix' idiotic move may get a pass simply because Apple TV isn't quite where I want it to be yet, and Blockbuster Online isn't even an option, for me. Then again, it may not. Forcing me to manually merge our queues certainly isn't a good sign.
This article was cross-posted from my blog.
I haven't used the profiles feature since my roommate moved out, but we loved it. It made it so much easier to handle my Netflix queue. She used to love watching Friends, and rather than having to wait for to get through the whole set, I just set up the profile. It was so easy.
I can believe that people are going to be upset.
My wife has not set her profile up, but she was planning to. It's never a good idea to remove popular features or functionality.
My fear with going the download route is, what happens if my service provider puts a cap on how much I can download, or charges a high premium for the ability to download more? Between PS3, XBox Live, Wiiware and ITunes not to mention regular internet usage, adding even 1 film a week to that could easily put you in a 20+ gigs a month category.
I have Netflix, but I never set up different profiles. Whatever I pick is what we watch. However, I can see the importance of having that feature with families or, like you, couples with different tastes. I racking my brain trying to come up with a feature that would replace this one and make Netflix better.
On a different note, I e-mailed Netflix several weeks ago. They never responded to me, which is something I tend not to accept very well. Plus I can't tell you how many scratched movies I've gotten. Sure, they'll replace them, but I'm sitting here with no movie in the meantime. Sorry for the mini rant.
Maybe it's time to write an updated Apple TV article. (Hint, hint) I saw some several months ago, but haven't seen anything since. Is Apple TV worth it? Has it gotten better? I have basic cable ($56 a month!) and love the variety I get on Netflix.
lauhal:
It's funny, but we got our first scratched DVD from Netflix, Syriana. I just ordered the replacement.
We tried the two-weeks-free program which ended June 7 I think, 3 DVDs at a time, but we're switching down to one at a time at the end of this billing cycle.
Their online slection's very extensive, but there are advantages and disadvantages compared to Vongo, for example. So far, we think services such as Vongo and Netflix are different, but Dad puts it that Netflix has more movies online, and he likes the quality of the DVDs, but you can transport Vongo movies for one, and they're large files, could be better quality than Netflix Instant Play, but I don't think so right now. We subscribed to Vongo for a year or two I think though.
I'll check it out. Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't have Boot Camp on my Mac at the moment, so I can't do the instant watch via Netflx.
Single good reason: Money.
Over on Digg, someone said they called the company about this, and the cube zombie told them that this issue only affected 2% of subscribers.
If the 2% number is true, this 2% is probably a group of heavy users (the ones who would take the time to set up different profiles), which because of rising postage might be costing the company money instead of making it money. Maybe the executives think it's worth angering 2%, even if those people are among the most loyal users, to simplify their service, release a couple of code monkeys working with profiles, and save some money in the long run.
This is just my guess.
Either way, I think this sucks. Like Brian, my family uses this feature extensively. However, an Apple TV will not meet our needs, and I swore a long time ago to never give another dime to Blockbuster when they sent my account to collections for a $5.00 late fee.
-Rob
That was my reaction. I don't understand why they did it. They've generally been pretty media savvy but this was an idiotic move.
Brian,
I think Netflix's motivation for canceling Profiles is still a mystery; however, I would imagine that when the company looked at the subscribers who use the feature they considered that angering customers who weren't making them money not really a problem.
Also, unlike you, in my case movie turnover is likely to slow. I watch discs significantly faster than my wife, so if I forget to manage the queue, and we end up with one kid movie and two for my wife, the three discs will sit until either we watch the family movie or my wife watches one of hers, which could be a few weeks.
It would be nice if my wife and I could watch movies together, but our schedules just don't work this way, so if we get something we both want to see, I'll watch it and then it will sit until she gets a chance to watch it. So again, another movie sitting and waiting.
Because of the canceling of Profiles, Netflix is bound to make more money from my account eventually. (unless I cancel, which isn't likely to happen.)
-Rob
Sending movies back faster is not what Netflix wants. We used to watch movies a lot faster than what we do now, and after a while it took much longer to receive them. For a while there, I thought my mail carrier was stealing them -- she wasnt; Netflix was throttling.
ok I hate to do this because I worked for Netflix and I find it to be such a sweat shop operation but I do have to say, the day they get your DVD back another one goes out. They spend HOURS going through every DVD that comes in so the customers get their next movie the next day. They pride themselves with that.
Not always. Netflix throttling is pretty well established.
Brian:
I hope they keep it free rather than charge for it.
I was pretty confused as well, and for similar reasons to you. My wife has a queue full of TV series she never got a chance to watch, while my queue is full of movies that I'm curious about. Putting them together makes a lot more manual work for us to what was, I assume, an automated process that required little to no human intervention on the part of Netflix employees.
Does this mean the Friends feature is going away as well?
Anyway, maybe they have something else up their sleeve to replace the Profiles feature. I doubt it, since smart business would say you pad the bad news with the good, but here's hoping.
I don't use profiles so I don't appreciate the problem. My complaint is that Netflix is expensive for old subscribers....$18/mo for three and poor choices for instant watch.
Amen on the instant watch. Its great for popular TV shows, but not so much in the movie department.
Oh yeah, I forgot; they charge sales tax. Vongo doesn't.
The solution, of course, is to become Baptist. That way you can assert your authority as the male of the household and over the Netflix queue; then this wouldn't be an issue. :-)
Re: AppleTV, I wish they would add rented television series to the offerings. Then I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Would being Baptist keep my wife from queueing Alvin and the Chipmunks? (For the kids, she says.)
The ten commandments only say that kids have to honor their parents, nothing about it being a reciprocal thing.
Doing away with a popular feature is one thing, but claiming that the reason is because "the change will help us continue to improve the Netflix website for all of our Customers" is downright absurd.
So true (above). I also find random rate increases followed by the same assurance regarding customer improvement.
I haven't signed up for Netflix or the Blockbuster service yet as I am seriously considering one of them. Thank you for this informative article.
"the change will help us continue to improve the Netflix website for all of our Customers" is downright absurd. How?
New Coke was downright absurd but Coca Cola really thought it was a groundbreaking idea too as did Ford with the Edsel, as I am sure Netflix believes this change will improve Netflix. Would not be the first time a corporation made a big mistake and it wont be the last.
Only two things to do, Deal or cancel. Their bottom line might change their mind?
Me and my folks had Netflix for a while--had to give it up because of some financial woes and we didn't really use the profile option (we have pretty different tastes, but we were willing to negotiate), but this does sound like a stupid move on their part.
For all those considering AppleTV, I would suggest checking out Tivo which can do everything the AppleTV can do (with the help of some free software or their Tivo Desktop) plus be a DVR.
You will heart TIVO, Brian. I've had mine since they were released--make sure to get one with a dual tuner, you can record two stations at once, or record one and watch another live.
If you can afford it get the lifetime subscription for $399. It seems like a bit up front but at $12.95 a month but after 2.5 years it is saving you money. I have a machine that is over 5 years old and is only offline right now because I bought a Series 3 and haven't decided what do with the Series 2.
Netflix just came out with a box for your TV that will cost the customers $100.00 and they will be able to instantly rent DVD's that will be downloaded to the box. The article about that was on Slashdot a few months ago. You can still get your DVDs in the mail...for now.....that will probably become obsolete in the future.
Well dang... I didn't even know about the ability to create multiple profiles for one account! Oh well.
I recently purchased the $100 box and LOVE LOVE LOVE it!! As others have pointed out, the collection of instant movies is pretty sparse now, but having Hitchcock classics, great documentaries such as King Corn and Jesus Camp, plus season 1 of This American Life waiting for instant view in the living room makes the $100 well worth it. I have the little box connected to my wireless network and the quality and response time are both great.
Incidentally, does anyone know if there's an automated way to consolidate profiles? I didn't see an option for it, but going through manually would be a gigantic pain...
It's just about cost cutting. Maybe they received less interest in the Profile program so they are looking to drop it.
There isn't much competition in the marketplace anyway. When customers have fewer vendors to choose from, companies can dictate what services they will offer, and customers receive less service for their patronage.
So instead of having two $4.99 accounts rather than one $13.99 account you are going to waste time to write this? Or even better yet, try to work this out with your wife like an adult?????
Prime example of why I don't come to NV that often anymore. Once we got bought by MSNBC, getting smarter here got replaced by "get flamed here, by people with nonsensical numbers in their names".
Now that I have looked, you are COMPLETELY right.
My biggest problem with netflix is that they have a sloppy Blue-Ray selection. I was able, or rather had to watch The Jane Austin Book Club in high def, but not Beowulf or Series that were filmed in High Def. Now if they want to charge more for Blue-Ray account holders I am going to blockbuster.
Who Cares!!
And to think I had even considered joining their service. Thanks for the insight.
I wish you the best, though I fear it will have results much like other means-to-an-end do.
I think the problem to focus on more is that they don't offer online movie watching for Mac users and neglect to tell you this until AFTER you pay the subscription fee. Maybe this was my negligence but since they can detect your OS they should really tell you beforehand!
It appears this decision has been un-decided. I just got an e-mail from Netflix:
We Are Keeping Netflix ProfilesYou spoke, and we listened. We are keeping Profiles. Thank you for all the calls and emails telling us how important Profiles are.
We are sorry for any inconvenience we may have caused. We hope the next time you hear from us we will delight, and not disappoint, you.
-Your friends at Netflix
So that's nice. Better than a company making a decision that its users are clearly against, deciding "screw them" and going with it. Bravo Netflix, bravo.
Apparently the 2% of the user base that wants profiles (me included) really wants profiles. Link to Netflix blog announcing reversed decision.
Totally awesome. After reading this article, I was disappointed to learn that I was losing a feature that a.) I didn't use currently and b.) could really use it. Now that it is back or not leaving -- Profiles, here I come!
I wonder how many customers they lost before reinstating the profiles feature?
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