Yes, I know, all of this is beside the point. The person who attends "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" expecting logic and plausibility is on a fool's mission. This is a Mouth Agape Movie, during which your mouth hangs open in astonishment at one preposterous event after another. This movie's plot doesn't play tennis without a net, but also without a ball and a racket. It spins in its own blowback. And, no, I don't know what that means, but this is the kind of movie that makes you think of writing it.
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Normally, I wouldn't seed a review of (what sounds to be) a mediocre movie.
I just found the line "It spins in its own blowback..." and the followup quip to be really funny.
Even if Ebert doesn't have his voice, his wit is firmly in place.
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I'm so glad that he continues to write. The man is sharp and the kind of celebrity I'd actually like to meet.
As for the film, my wife loved the first one so I know I'll be seeing this one. At least with the little one now, we see everything via Netflix: giving me both some time and the ability to get up off the couch…
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Jason,
If you're ever in the area, Ebert comes to Boulder every year in March/April to do a week-long, scene-by-scene breakdown of a movie. Over the past few years, I've seen him talk about Fight Club, Mulholland Drive and Chinatown. What an experience.
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I didn't think this was possible, but I actually think he's getting better. His review of "The Mist" had me laughing out loud. I'm convinced that sometimes his reviews are better than the movies they review, and that a thumbs-down review from Ebert can make me appreciate a bad movie by the way he celebrates its badness.
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Awhile ago, I remember Sean Penn being quoted saying something really nasty about Nicholas Cage. Something to the effect that he was a great actor who didn't feel like acting anymore and he was throwing away his talent on crap.
It was very pompous, and very much like Penn to say something like that. But after watching what Cage has been doing lately, I kind of agree. He's a good actor, I don't understand what he's doing. He's made a lot of movies, he can't be hurting for cash.
Sooner or later you'd think he'd want a decent script, there have to be one or two out there.
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When I first saw the preview for National Treasure, I laughed out loud at the premise.
When I first saw the preview for this one, I just hung my head.
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C'mon! What's not to like? They are like The Da Vinci Code without all those annoying French accents.
Of course, The Da Vinci Code was like Foucault's Pendulum without any real intelligence required.
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spin or blowback I'm more than willing to suspend reality for a few dollars and some movie entertainment that seems a lot longer in coming this year.
Thanks for the seed Brian.
You all know that the first one was just as preposterous? And yet, it was incredibly entertaining and fun to watch. I don't know what I get tired of more: Critics in general or critics who attempt to apply logic and cohesion to what are obviously outrageous action films. Die Hard series anyone? Yeah, because precisely timing a jump from the wing of a spinning F-22 is realistic. Armageddon? Critics hated it, but it was one of the biggest movies of 1998 (and secretly one of my favorite movies). If you're the kind of person that expects logic in everything you do or see, then don't watch action movies, you'll just be disappointed, and you will have completely failed to grasp the point of an action movie: fun and entertainment. They are not the Dead Poets Society. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people that enjoy being able to suspend their disbelief for 2 hours and just allow themselves to enjoy the absurdity.
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They are not the Dead Poets Society.
To be honest, I found the stunts and special effects in Dead Poets Society to be pretty unbelievable, too.
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jmack02: This is not lost on Ebert. From his review of "Live Free or Die Hard:"
It's been said by our friends, and by our foes: Movies plus cars equals America. Well, car stunts plus a star like Bruce Willis equals a good action movie. A scene like the one in "Live Free or Die Hard" lets crazy-gifted stunt drivers bend the laws of physics, geometry and adrenaline to create a moviegoer's contact high. And since it seems to be achieved with a minimum of computer legerdemain and a maximum of ingenious skill, the scene triggers the satisfyingly old-fashioned vibe audiences used to get from action-movie entertainment they believed people had risked their lives to provide.…
In the middle of a summer season already exhausted with sequels depending too much on visual effects, here's a throwback to remind you what American movies can do best. Enough of the ghost pirates and silver surfers! Up with cool stunts and car crashes! Real action films may be the wave of the past but, as this one splendidly shows, they'll live free before they die hard.
There's nothing wrong good 'ole plain fun explosions, car chases, and guns-a-blazin' action movies. They're pure entertainment. Of course, having a bit of a plotline doesn't hurt even action films. I think that a certain amount of suspension of logic and physics is assumed going into any action film. However, it seems the "National Treasure" series pushes this just a bit too far.
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The main reason I don't watch action films anymore is that the characters and situations have become more comic book
Absolutely nothing wrong with comic books, dude.
Sometimes, we just want to be entertained.
Perhaps the most entertainment will come from listening to those who think they find truth in it, ala The DaVinci Code
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True that EPH. I enjoy a dumb movie from time to time.
This one has 'hungover Sunday, On-Demand' written all over it...
i have found that my enjoyment of movies has little to do with what professional critic say.
rotten tomaotes provides more incite IMO and even then in the right location and mind set i have found great entertainment in some real stinkers.
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Isn't RT just a collection of professional critical reviews?
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Yeah, I thought RT was just a critic aggregator site (like Metacritic, which I prefer because it has different types of media). What's a bit funny is that as of typing this, Roger Ebert is the "Spotlight" section on RT's site. I suggest everyone read that interview. The guy is great.
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i wasnt clear and was just making the point even stinkers can be fun.. but on RT, they have "user" ratings as well.. I find the "user" ratings to be more helpful..
many sites do this liek gamespot.. i find the "user" ratings there to be more accurate of what i can expect to experience.
I ignore the professional reviews, agrigated or not.
There are no "user" reviews on RT. All reviewers are accredited, although they do separate out the "cream of the crop" into a sub-set of the rankings for each movie. (Cream of the crop being the mainstream reviewers: Ebert, NY Times, etc.)
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I like the aggregated reviews on RT, and how they determine if each review was "fresh" or "rotten". The Tomatometer is simply the percentage of "fresh" reviews out of the total number of reviews. It's usually a pretty good gauge. For example, a movie with 10% or less fresh reviews is almost always guaranteed to be a stinker. Likewise, 90% and above there's a very good chance it'll be worth watching. I find anything in the 30-70% range is where I have to read several reviews to get a truer feel for why certain critics liked or disliked a movie. These are usually the movies that either you're interested in them or no, and that should be your motivation for seeing/not seeing the movie.
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My son loved the first installment and we actually bought the book before everyone could see the second installment, its fiction and it gets kids interested in history. I think anything that provides reading and a desire to learn is a great book...
Mel
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The movie was good, it was not as great as the first movie. There were few too many clues and portions were less plausable. My 13 year old liked it and I am glad that I saw it on the big screen...
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The sheer idolatry of the previews is just sickening.
I don't see how people can doubt that we have a national religion when we have a freaking statue of Father Abraham in national capital that would make King Nebuchadnezzar proud.
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Idolatry is the religious worship of idols, or excessive or blind adoration, reverence, devotion, etc.
How does a statue of Abraham Lincoln equal idolatry? Do folks worship it? Should we not have statues commemorating anyone at all?
Has the whole world gone mad?
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How does a statue of Abraham Lincoln equal idolatry?
Obviously you have not yet sacrificed a donkey or an elephant on the steps of the memorial and spent cold nights scantily clad on the mall twisting and swaying to banjo music while the spire of the Washington monument aligned with the north star.
How did you get your citizenship?
How did you get your citizenship?
:) I was born here. Guess I missed the sacrifice and dead president worship. Will someone remind me the next time it happens? I want to make sure I ask off work the next day -- gonna be a big night. :)
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You could start with a cast like that and make one of the greatest movies of all time, which is not what happened here.
The last line had me laughing out loud.
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Wait... I still don't understand how there's a second one. They found the frackin national treasure! I'm still going to see the second one tonight with my boyfriend because I'd rather experience it for myself then take somebody else's word on it.
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